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CITY. COUNGIL QF.PEAGHI~~EGITY
WORKSHOp.MINUTES
MAY 1, 2012
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Mayor Don Haddix called the workshop meeting of the City Council to order at 6:30pm. Those
present were Mayor Don Haddix, Eric Imker, George Dienhart, Kim Learnard, and Vanessa
Fleisch. Also present were Jim Pennington, Jon Rorie, Cajen Rhodes, Quinn Bledsoe and Joyce
Williams.
The purpose of the workshop was to discuss recreational programming fees and the Stormwater
utility rate assessment.
Rorie stated that he wanted to fDention some items cQveredIn th~March retreat that the
department had been working on over the last four months. The facility use agreements were
rewritten or restructured, with the purpose of placing the City in a good strong position with
some liability concerns on the fin<:mcial and use side. Some of the old agreements had not
been enforced or followed through with. Rorie said he had met with the Associations to get their
recommendations and to review.the changes in the agreements. He said that they were
moving forward with the process bvt it was not complete and only some of the agreements had
been turned back in.
Rorie said some facilities had falle(l into a state of disrepair and some had been kept up well
with the support from the Associa.tions to help maintain them. The department was moving
forward with a true partnership and analyzing the City's fee structures to pay for the
maintenance of these facilities.
Rorie's presentation included c;harts and figures regarding facilities and assessment,
maintenance requirements, contractual services, recreational fees, youth sports association
fees, programming fees, pool usage/membership fees, facility rental fees, and special event
permit fees.
Rorie showed the Recreation Master Plan from 2007 - 2011 which stated:
. Goal was to successfully provide residents and local businesses with high quality,
meaningful recreation opportunities.
. Planninq Assumptions Volunteer staff would continue to be. sufficient with citizens .and
programs in place. Acreage within PTC used for recreation would remain asdesignated.
Planning assumptions woulO remain proportionally the same with more financial support
received from higher user fees and grants/sponsorships.
Objectives:
. Operations and Maintenance. .. Assess the acl~quacy()f€1~isting. maintenance staff
resources to effectively maintain existing and future sites and facilities.
Periodically review maintenance operations and seek most economical providers.
. Financing Implement a three-tier (PTC, Fayette County, Out of County) fee structure to
ensure all categories of users are paying for services commensurat~ with their tax
participation.
. prc Recreation ProQrams are available to 1 st priority-All Peachtree City residents, 2nd
priority-residents of Fayette County, 3nd priority-employees of Peachtree City businesses
when participating in corporate teams, events, activities. 4th Priority- Individuals residing
outside of Fayette County.'Non-resident participation should be held to less than 30% for
youth sports.
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. Workshop to discuss recr~ational fees and maintenance requirements that are
appropriate;
programming fees, pool usdge/membership fees,. Youth Sports Associations' fees, special
events. and facility. rental. .. City was underfunded to meet the demands of facility
maintenance, facility repairs and capital needs.
Summary of Recommendations:
. Programming fees - increase by 10-20% depending on class. Average $6 per
participant.
Change Instructor/City split to 75/25 ratio, net revenue increase of $37,427
. Pool Fees for daily/quarterly passes, swim teams - no change, these were raised two
years ago
. Youth sports Association fees - use a three-tier fee system per participant; $15 for PTC,
$25 for Rest of County anO $50 for Out of County. The new agreements eliminated
fenced accounts to cover portion of maintenance expenses.
. User Fees - establish a true partnership of a 50/50 split of users and City subsidy, 80%
would go into General Fund Maintenance and 20% into Capital Reserve Fund.
. Special Events - develop a tiered permit system based upon support requirements.
Charge for staff time at $25per staff hour to provide support regarding parking/transport
plans, tables, chairs, cones, barricades, trash supplies. Would start with a minimum
permit fee of $50 and more information would be presented during the FY 2013 budget
recommendations.
. Facility Rental -increase all rental rates by 20%.
Eric Snell of the Peachtree City Youth Soccer Association presented a chart to the group and
discussed the figures he put together from cost components received from the Recreation
Department in 2009-2010 for each facility. The chart showed the contributions from the City,
fenced accounts, and organizations which covered mowing, lighting, marble dust, restroom
cleaning, etc. and what the Assodation's expenses were for paint to line fields, repair of goals,
etc., which the City never saw. Sn~1I mentioned the average costs were based on per square
feet per field per facility to find out the costs paid to run the facility from the City side and the
costs from the Association side. Lpoking at the chart, the averages might already be at 40%
Association and 60% City. Snell further stated, from current figures Rorie presented at this
meeting, the Association's might be closer to a 50%/50% contribution. Snell said that the chart
showed the Associations had already been contributing significant amounts towards
maintenance and upkeep.
Snell did not believe the City received payback of any sort from the play parks, dog parks, tennis
courts, pOols, etc. Snell said he cOljld see where Rorie haO 100keO at rev~nue for the programs
and for the pools and the costs on everything else. Snell said there was a disconnect there.
Snell asked how much the City was supporting, citizen-wise, to the pool facilities and how much
revenue came in from the pools, which was not as relevant as how much it cost to maintain a
facility. He asked if an instructor charged $100 a class and the City took $50 dollars of that,
whether the instructor still ran the program.
Snell compared revenue on the program side against cost components. He asked what the
costs were to maintain the pool, as it was a City facility. He did not have all the costs and what
the City got from other Associations in equitable contributions. If it what was being paid by the
~ other associations for the other faci,!ities was equivalent, then maybe the City was on par.
Imker asked if the 50/50 split was for users and taxpayers. Rorie said yes that he also wanted to
meet a target for user fees in the plan. Imker did some quick calculations and said that the 50%
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split vvhichwas $125,000 for the taxpayers equaled 1/15 of a millwhich translates to $8 per
average resident household to maintain the fields out of their annual bill.
Sne-I.I said that a lot of timeond wo~~vy()s.9Pr-J~/~y volunteers and pthers who took ownership of
a particular facility. Snell's concern was more work would fall onto the City. A clear
understanding was needed of what the City and the Association would be responsible for.
Further comments and discussions.. took place from the representatives of the Associations.
Some of the items discussed were. monies spent by the Associations for improvements and or
maintenance and the volume of w()rk from volunteers. Imker asked for a rough estimate of an
average cost breakdown of registration fees and an example was given by Girl's Softball.
Snell asked if the City was going 50/50 on sports associations why it was not suggesting 50/50 on
the programs or the pools. The City was mixing the way fees were charged and that might
need to be re-assessed. He suggested having an access card for use of tennis courts, rooms,
etc. Mayor Haddix asked whether the priorities were right and that Snell had brought up some
valid points.
Dienhart asked if staff would look at the pool fees. Pennington responded the City would look at
the debt service and operational costs during the budget process.
Shayne Robinson. Recreation and Special Events Advisory Board chairman, said all of this was a
work in progress and the important focus right now was the facilities (Baseball Soccer Complex
and Braelinn) with the help of the Associations to get the job done. She added that the service
the Associations provided was valuable and the City did not want to loose that. Funds were the
issue. She further stated that, with t~e feechanges, she hoped the participation not dwindle.,
Fleisch said there were discussions ')ast November aboytthe possible partnership between the
Convention & Visitors Bureau (CVB) and Recreation. After discussions with both parties, the City
realized that it needed to work oQrecreation first and raise the fees. The partnership might
happen in the future once the fields and facilities were in good shape.
Further discussion took place regarding tournaments. There was concern about the wear and
tear on the fields and the availability of usage between outside organizers and the associations.
Joe Kuebler, Recreation and Special Events Advisory Board. member, said most requests for
tournaments were usually March - May and September - November during main seasons. There
were a limited number of slots during seasons, which might have an effect on City residents and
their sports participation.
Leah Thompson, Recreation and Special Events Advisory Board member, suggested that
maintenance would need to be ctearly defined between the Associations and the City. Rorie
agreed that the department would re-assess and odd the maintenance details to the current
agreement. Pennington added that a semblance of equality was needed to provide the
highest level of performance and that's why staff will be going through these agreements.
Imker encouraged all parties to participate in the budget process to make sure funds were
getting into those separate accounts.
Mayor, Council Members, City Mqnager and Association's commended Rorie, Cajen Rhodes,
Quinn Bledsoe, and the Recreati()h and Special Events staff for providing detailed data and
information so the Board and Council could make good decisions, mentioning they had seen
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and recognized the latest repairs and improvements to some of the facilities and appreciated
their efforts.
Stormwater
Public Services Director Mark Caspar gave a PowerPoint presentation and talked about the
history of the Stormwater Utility. The utility was established in February 2006 with a staff of 9.5
people/personnel for routine maintenance. The revenue bond was issued in May 2007. The
original proceeds were $3,745,000 with a current interest rate of 4.07%, and the remaining
balance was $754,731 (expected to be allocated this year on remaining projects.) The current
debt service was approximately $275,000 a year until the bond matured in May 2027.
Caspar said that, originally, when th.e utility was established it was projected that a rate increase
would occur in year five, which was last year. A rate study analysis would need to be done.
Caspar worked with a consultant 0(:1 what was being done, what was being seen, what projects
would need to be done, and to come up with a proposed list of projects. Some of the projects
on the list already had a conceptual or final design plan or had a definite need for one.
The new proposed capital projects were the Rockspray Pond rehabilitation - $911,000,
Braelinn/Creekside/Southside Church (BCS) pond repairs - $500,000, Kedron Ponds rehabilitation
-$927,000, Westpark detention pond preventative maintenance - $150,000, Golfview Drive
drainage system replacement - $1,294,000, Harbor Loop drainage system replacement -
$1,500,000, stream restoration projects - $350,000, pipe lining program - $2,500,000, and bond
issuance costs - $75,000, which toto led $8,207,000.
Caspar mentioned that Rockspray, BCS, and Kedron ponds provided a tremendous amount of
detention.. Caspar explained thatstaffvy()ss~~in9 some failing Infrastructure and ongoing
flooding issues on Golfview Drive:' Harbor Loop, and several other locations. Stream bank
restoration helped with erosion qlong" the strearn bank by adding new vegetation, and
preventing sediment from going downstream. Caspar added that the Rockspray Pond project
was ready to go as soon as the funqs were available.
Pipe lining, when it could be done, might be more economical and become a vital part of the
maintenance program. The road/asphalt did not have to be torn up, and the lifespan was 50
years. Work was done under Peqchtree Parkway about a month ago and that project cost
$12,000. If staff had done it the work and disrupted traffic, it would have cost about three times
that amount to replace the pipe. However, pipe lining was not perfect for every situation. There
were already needs for its use on Peachtree Parkway, City Hall, and Windbreak.
Learnard asked if the stream restorgtion project was just in one spot. Caspar said no, that it was
projected funds as part of stormwater management. One of the projects he would bring to
Council this summer would be Pnase 2 of the Bridlepath project where the dam would be
knocked out in order to rehabilitat~ th~ streamJlowqr]d re.sto.r~thestr~9rn.p<:m~.eh9se .1.of the
project was the realignment of the cart path. Dienhart asked what the ballpark figure was to
knock down the dam. Caspar said the estimated cost was $175,000 - $200,000. Stormwater
Project Manager Mike Madison saig that $500,000 a year might be a good starting point as most
of the pipes are over 25 years old.. Assessment would be criticql and the pavement program
should be assessed once every other year, which had not been done with the City's stormwater
structure.
Fleischosked if the City wasobliQatedt6 use the bond rnoney only on the specific projects
listed. Caspar said the current bqnd had a contingency line item and any savings from a
particular project or a project that might have been cancelled would go into that line item and
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could then be allocated to. another project where it was needed. Pennington said the second
bond could be written the same way.
Imker asked what projects could be put off until the next potential bond in 2017. Caspar
explained that it was a question of risk assessment of known hazards downstream. Upcoming
inspections would determine what Oreas were critical and which qnes could wait. The Golfview
project would need some upsizing on the system, and lining was not an option. Caspar
mentioned that he would come bQck to Council to ask for $77,000 out of Stormwater reserves
for pipe lining that was not covered under the old or new bond.
Caspar stated that there were new National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES)
permit requirements that would go into effect in January 2013, including additional inspections,
total maximum daily load (TMDL) requirements, and additional education. Imker asked about
permit fees. Caspar explained the City did not pay a permit fee and the $50,000 for year one
(due the largest amount of inspeFtionneeded) and $30,000 for following years were costs
associated with the right to dischar~e stormwater. There were about 20 items that the City had
to do in order to be in compliance with the current permit. An example of the requirements was
street sweeping.
Caspar continued that additionql crew was needeq for routine maintenance based. on
equivalence and the focus on pond and swale maintenance, street sweeping, and pipe
replacement. There were full-time equivalents, three personnel working on stormwater issues
cleaning swales, ponds, and street sweeping and three personnel from the streets crew doing
paving. When a pipe replacement was needed all six personnel were pulled to do bigger jobs
which meant there was no paving done during that time. This was a way of cost sharing
between the General Fund and, the St()rmwoter funds due to. not knowing the level of
maintenance needed at that point. Moving forward, crew was needed to maintain 67
detention ponds and each one cOl,Jld take up to a week to clean out. The approximate annual
funding of $358,247 for additional employees would be paid with the billing rate increase.
The projected new expenses for bond debt service (assuming 3% interest rate over 20 years),
new Municipal Separate Storm Sewer Systems (MS4) inspection requirement, proposed
unplanned projects, and the new personnel increase totaled $1,189,220.11 annually.
Caspar recommended a residential rate increase from current $3.95 per Equivalent Residential
Units (ERU) per month to $7.80 per ~RU per month for single family homes. He had not included
commercial billing not included in presentation, but they paid on an impervious surface rate.
Caspar further stated that at the curreot rate $20,002.80 came out of the General Fund to the
Stormwater Fund for City propertiesond $335,502.00 for City streets and multi-use paths. With the
increase Stormwater would receiv~$39 ,499 .00 for City properties and $662,688 for City streets
and multi-use paths. Caspar suggested that the billing be sent out two times a year instead of
the current once a year billing.
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Imker said he would like to know hQw much in prinCipal remained on the current bond. He said
he would like Caspar to show the figures for a $6 million bond, $8 million, and a $10.7 million
bond and what the rates would be,Jor each as well qswhat projects could be left off. the list. He
also requested the cost of billing for once a year and two times a year. He asked Caspar what
would be the minimum bond the City could get away with that would last for five years. It might
be more or less but to treat this fairly.
Fleisch asked how much was left. on the current bOnd anq WhqtWas that eqrrnarked for.
Caspar said there was $750,000 left on the Qondwith Wynnmeade, Preston Chase, Lenox Road
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and Bridlepath projects remaining. Caspar further stated that some of these projects would use
the balance and some of projects vYould be moved to the new bond.
Learnard asked how vvell did the $150,000 allotted a year go for lining the pipes. Caspar said
not very well, the last two projects were about $25,000 (48 feet) and the new one at $77,000 (400
feet). He would have a better ideq after assessments were done this year. Learnard said there
needed to be better emphasis on this to stay ahead.
Haddix said his concern was that every project was needed and the responsibility fell on
property owners. For all intents and purposes, it meant a tax increase. The City could not keep
charging the citizens more and mdJe money. He needed to see a corresponding reduction in
the millage rate to balance this to a zero amount to taxpayers.
Learnard asked if there was a time constraint. Caspar said he would get all the information
together to present at the May 17 meeting for a vote with the intention of a bond. Caspar also
said at that meeting he would discuss the credits stormwater offered with the Adopt-A-Mile,
Park, Path programs, adding they would like to consider a rain barrel credit.
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There being no further business to discuss, the workshop a